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After a recent update I noticed that when I create a new table in Design all table cells <td> now have a border color property for every side of the <td>.

What's up with that? The code is not even in the Top, Right, Bottom, Left order as it should be using good coding practices. The Design editor doesn't even keep all the border colors together. Instead, it sticks in width and height among the border-color codes. I like clean code, so now I have to go in and delete all that junk code for every table cell. This is in addition to having to remove all the "surplus" code that the Design editor puts in and never removes as revisions are made. This is just extra work that I shouldn't have to do.

Maybe people who are just knocking out their own websites with the Design editor don't care (or even know) about all this extra code in the source. Those of us who build websites for other people and companies do care that our source code doesn't look like it came from some amateur hack programmer.

Hopefully, future versions of XSite Pro will have a Design editor that doesn't spew out unnecessary and unneeded code. I really like the ease with which I can build and publish websites with XSite Pro. I would like to see it a true "pro" product that doesn't require manual source code editing to produce professional looking source code. (End of rant)

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I just checked to see if that happens to me and I do not get the bonus code

I am on version 2.541

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I'm on version 2.537.

This brings up another issue, the unannounced updates.

It seems that Intellimon may have fixed this issue. Why do they keep it a secret?

Where does one go to find the latest release of XSite Pro 2.5x?

Thanks

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Hi Copywolf,

I don't think it is an unannounced update - I had a couple bugs that support fixed and was given the update to verify that my issues were gone.

I am not sure when they will make it an official update, which you will see when you open XSP saying there is a new version.

If you wish to try it out -

http://licensing.intellimon.com/xsitepr ... ate541.exe

Here is what was fixed -

The crashing when publishing tag lists
The left and right navigation menu / erroneous css reference
The problem with importing xse files that have no publishing details.

Jason

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Hi Jason,

Thanks for the update link and the update on the update.

Does XSite pro have a URL where we can go to find the latest releases?

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Not for the unofficial releases, but for the official releases, you will be notified when opening XSitePro. I think a box pops up and says something like new version available or something like that.

Jason

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So, officially, the update that gets rid of the unwanted border color properties doesn't yet exist for XSite Pro users.

I did download and install the update in the URL Jason posted above.
The unwanted border color issue has been fixed.

To my knowledge, this is the fastest a "Feature Request" has been implemented!

Come on Intellimon, communicate with your users. Let us know when you roll out a significant update.

Still left unresolved is the issue of orphan code, left over by making revisions with the Design editor. I have gotten into the habit of changing font size, font family, etc. in the Source editor. It ends up being more efficient than having to go back into the source and delete the leftover junk code.

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Hi Wolf,

I noticed this and had to comment on it.


XSite Pro has had this issue since day one. It shocks me that you are still using it to build sites that people are paying you for.

I would think that XSite Pro is good for private sites, but it's just not a professional grade tool to build sites for paying customers.

Plus the day has now arrived where XHTML now rules the internet. It happened quickly too. I remember only about a year ago where I was recommending against XHTML, but it's time to embrace it.

Plain old HTML is quickly breaking down at every turn.

It's time to get some new tools dude. WordPress, Drupal, and Joomla are the big boys on the block now.

Just a thought that crossed my mind.

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If you think XSite Pro is such a bad tool, I'm surprised that you're still hanging around here.

I have several dozen customer websites done with XSite Pro, plus 10-12 of my own. Unless they pay me to change them, these customer sites are going to stay XSite Pro websites. They work great, they make money, and XSite Pro makes them easy to maintain. The visitors don't care what software was used to create the website. The code has already been cleaned up in these websites.

I have a big toolbox, XSite Pro is just one of the tools that I use. I build more WordPress websites these days than any other platform. (Drupal and Joomla are fine for their devotees but I'll stuck with WordPress unless something a lot better comes along.) I use Aptana Studio for a lot of my development work. (See, I do appreciate the power and beauty of CSS.) I also build Zen Cart websites. Zen Cart isn't the flashiest cart out there but it works great and has lots of support and addons. Since Zen Cart is PHP, CSS and MySQL based, it's not entirely unlike tweaking WordPress. Like WordPress, the basic Zen Cart platform is free. I also have used WebPlus x4, XSite Pro's fellow UK competitor. WebPlus is a nice CSS based system and the code output is clean, but I prefer Aptana for creating CSS based websites.

XSite Pro still has a place in my toolbox. I can still create and deploy small websites quickly and efficiently. I would like to see Intellimon take XSite Pro to the next level.

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Ditto on that! But it is going to mean creating their own editor, because pin edit isn't even up-to-date anymore. Like I said before, XSite Pro's coding was antiquaited right from day one. It came out right when CSS was getting popular for the affiliate marketing crowd.

I still hang around because I like it here. I have allot of friends through these boards. Including you Wolf.

Have a blessed day.

JK

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It now seems that the border-color issue isn't fixed, after all.

I was working on a test page that has one table (okay it has 3 if you count XSP_OUTLINE and XSP_CENTER_PANEL).

I added the table to my new page and this code was inserted into the source.

What really steams me is that I edited out the spurious code in Source and the @#$*%# Design editor put it right back in.
This is not how a professional grade tool should perform.

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Hi CopyWolf, everyone,

If you raise this as a support ticket, I will pass it to the programming team for fixing.

Tickets can be raised in the usual place:
http://intellimon.helpserve.com

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Ben Fleeson
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http://xsiteprosupport.com/

I would hope that the developers at Intellimon are already aware of this issue and have requested that Pintexx (PinEdit) fix it. The ultimate solution is to get away from PinEdit and embed a WYSIWYG editor that is not solely based on using tables.

XSite Pro is getting a bit long of tooth. It very much needs updating. I would gladly pay an upgrade charge for an updated XSite Pro with real CSS support, a better WYSIWYG editor, a professional grade source editor, etc.

XSite Pro is still the easiest way to build static websites that work and perform well.
I would not go back to Dreamweaver....

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