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 Post subject: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:29 pm 
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I have been using XSP for I guess about 4 or 5 months now. My ranking is dropping thus traffic is dropping thus income is dropping. I have been an ebay affiliate for about 4 years now and therefore now use PhpBay Api. Has anyone else in my position seeing the same thing. If you have and figured out how to fix the problem could you share with me your secrets. I always run the site to do list and fix anything that it tells me about. Before using XSP I used another template and actually made a great income, I would still be there but with ebay dropping the old rss feeds they will be closing the doors. What I have been doing for the last 4-5 months is copying info off my old sites and using that info on XSP. Same keywords, meta tags, content, etc same oh same oh, but getting a really different results. My sites on XSP are created to even look like they did before. I have checked all my sites that are on XSP now and they are all indexed by Goggle, but my ranking has dropped. I just need to figure out if it is something I'm doing wrong on XSP or if it is all Goggle. I'm not even getting the traffic that I had before from Yahoo and Bing. I'm so confused!

I would greatly appreciate any and all help.

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:16 am 
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Maybe I stated my situation all wrong. I'm just asking if someone would be willing to take a look at one of my sites. I see that many people have seen my post, but no replies. Maybe I'm just asking too much at this time.

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 5:44 am 
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Hi Jcholden,

If you add a link to your site in your post, we may be able to see what is happening. :)

From reading articles elsewhere it looks like Google are trying to filter out spammy websites from their listings.
Recent updates include filtering out sites that have content copies from other sources, and the latest one is looking at the quality of inbound links.

On test sites here, we have seen that on quality sites the number of impressions in the Google listings have dropped 20%, but the click through rate has stayed the same or risen.
I take this as in indicator that Google has been more accurate in matching requests to results. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:13 pm 
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Thanks for the reply. One of my websites is www.logsplitterplus.com, but basically all my sites are about the same. I really appreciate your honest straight forward option of this site. I do know that when I search with goggle for my main keyword I find it toward the top of page 3 all the sites before me are actual manufacturers of the logsplitter. But some of my other sites I didn't find was doing as well. I'm so confused.

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 1:31 pm 
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I will repeat here what I said in my reply to your other post:
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It's not really clear what you think you might be doing wrong. If it's the site map, you can't go wrong having a site map and keeping it up to date, both the XML site map(s) for the search engines and the XSitePro site map for your visitors. Google Panda and the recent Penguin updates have changed the algorithms that Google is using in order to move better sites up in the rankings.

It's all about content when it comes right down to it. Content and back links that Google values, not thousands of spammy back links all using the same anchor text (keywords).

And you should never put your business success only in the hands of Google's search results. Diversify, diversify, diversify!

My two main sites are usually #1 and #5 in Google, but they are #1 and #2 in Bing! I actually get most of my business directly from the XSitePro forum and from word of mouth, repeat customers, other people reselling my services, etc. I also have a blog (http://www.andreawilson.com) and other supporting sites like http://www.reviewtemplates.com, http://www.xsiteprosalestemplates.com, etc.

I am also developing another completely different (and potentially very lucrative) income stream that has nothing to do with Web design or XSitePro at all. It draws on a completely different skill that I happen to have (writing). And it's success does not depend on Google at all.

You just cannot afford to put all your eggs in one basket, especially a basket you have no control over, like Google. It might be the 900 pound gorilla in the room, but you don't have to stay in that room... or even that house.
Thank you for posting your URL, now maybe we can help you.

Your site needs to be updated to a more professional look. Unless that happens I'm not sure you'll make any money from it, unless it's from AdSense (which are actually "click-aways"). If you compare yourself to one of the log splitting companies, you'll see the level of professionalism in the design that you would need to compete with. If you compare yourself to an "amateur" site like this one (http://firewoodresource.com/firewood-eq ... -splitter/), you'll see the kind of content you'd need to compete with. The owner of this site actually is reviewing a log splitter. The person knows what they are talking about and they are not just spamming the words log splitter all over the place (a dead give-away that you are not an authority site, which is the only kind of site Google really cares about). He also has a bunch of real comments on that page. Google will like that. He only has one page on his site about log splitters, but it's on the first page of Google.

To shine in Google these days, you have to offer something more/better than your competitors. Spamming keywords is useless. Google's algorithms can spot that tactic a mile away. I use the phrase "xsitepro template" or "xsitepro templates" all over my site, but my content is written for real people to read, not for search engines to read. There's a difference... and Google can tell the difference. Google wants you to write for real people visiting your site.

No one looking for a log splitter online needs you to describe what a log splitter is!

This sentence (and its variations) is one of the most overused sentences online: "Looking for a [fill in the blanks], you've come to the right place." Start talking about the product immediately, you don't need this introduction. Or at least follow the "Looking for..." part of the sentence with a Call to Action. Or say something like, "Are you a wood producer or just cutting logs for firewood this Fall? Read our top ten log splitter reviews. We'll tell you which machine jams on cottonwood... and which machine will cut any hardwood, any softwood and outlast you!" It accomplishes a lot more because you're actually using latent semantic indexing (LSI), which Google understands very well, instead of keyword spamming. We've only used the term log splitter once, but we've used several words/phrases that belong together (LSI): wood producer, cutting logs, firewood, log splitter, machine, jams, cottonwood, cut, hardwood, softwood. It is much more natural and can be read with pleasure by a human being. We even added a little joke at the end. With these few words, the site is taking on a personality, and it feels as though a human being wrote the content. Please note that I know NOTHING about log splitters, so don't take my example literally; I'm just giving you some ideas!

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:02 pm 
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Thanks for the reply. I understand what you are saying and was planning on working on my page content after I get my sites off the other template before they take it offline. I do have many websites and was making almost $3000.00 a month and none of it was coming from any where besides eBay. Therefore I must have been doing something right. But I know I will need to work harder in the future to get to the top of Goggle again.

I was just asking this forum to look and see if I was using XSP to it's fullest potential (the other tab). I will be looking at my competition and will try to get my sites to look more professional in the future and will work on my page content. But at this time there is just no time.

Thanks again Andrea for your time
The internet is always changing and I know I will have to keep up with it to be successful.


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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 2:29 pm 
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You are using XSitePro to its fullest if you are creating an authority site. All the wizards and features are just tools and if you use too many of them, they become a distraction. A simple, professional site with wonderful, original, well-written content will win the day every time.

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:23 pm 
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I have added a feature request (in Features forum) about making the Link Manager Penguin friendly (Panda is rather old news now). It was previously a great SEO tool, but now actually has a negative effect as you cannot "unlink" the title text.

The majority of sites that have dropped recently have dropped due to excessive "rich text anchor links" from other sites.

If you have these you need to set about diluting them. At the same time, of course, you need to improve the content on the site itself. However a GREAT content site can still suffer badly if it has too many inbound anchors targeting a small number of keywords.

The bottom line is that recent drops in rankings have nothing to do with XSP, they would have happened whatever the builder.

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:00 am 
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Hi, Andy,

By "rich text anchor links," I think you mean "keyword-rich anchor text links."

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:21 am 
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Excellent Andrea, thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:06 am 
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Have you updated inline with the changeover from RSS 1.0 to RSS 2.0 within the eBay
partner network.

You may find that you have no content, or very little, on your websites.

This should have come about at the end of May but was delayed and may have only come about during the past couple of weeks.


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 Post subject: Re: Goggle Panda
PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:11 am 
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There are several XSP issues that do not sit will with either Panda or the new penguin.

First thing to do it look at your Analytics and get the EXACT date your traffic dropped suddenly. This will tell you if you are affected by Panda or Penguin. The fixes for both are different.

The XSP "issues" are all MINOR but if you have a lot of them they may add up to penalties.

For example

XSP auto generates a lot of duplicate Title and Description tags. You can remove these by making sure you have NO MORE than ONE of the internal links pages. Also use only ONE of the two in-site site maps i.e. Alphabetical OR Page Order but not both. Also anything that autogenerates "pages, 2,3,4 " etc such as the comments system and "more" pages.

However, as many people have pointed out the main factor is "content". The new "penalties" are "site wide" not "page wide", as before. This means that if you have 20 pages and 19 are good content and one is not the whole site, including the index page can be penalized. If you have low quality pages either add content to them or delete them.

I have around 80 XSP sites.

20 fell
20 gained
40 stayed the same

Most (not all) of the fallers were fixed by removing the duplicate urls and low quality score pages as above but its a bit of a process of trial and error to discover the exact reasons for the falls. All you can do is change something then wait a few week and if it does fix it try something else. Do NO make mass changes for a quick fix or you will not actually know which of the changes made the difference.

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